Makos 4a – Shiur (6/17/14)

Makos 4a. 

1. We spoke about the big chiddush of the A”R in Hilchos Shabbos. In short, the A”R states that there are two ‘melochos’  pertaining to cutting/tearing/ripping on Shabbos:

A-  Chotech-, which only applies when cutting an object something to measure and/or in an exact line. Such as a perforated sheet or tissue.

B-  Ko’rea-  which only applies in a case where cutting, ungluing or taking apart any composite material. Meaning  that is put together from a bunch of parts. Such as a piece of cloth that is woven from many strands.

Therefore, cutting a paper, which is not a composite,  there is no issue to do so on Shabbos unless one forms something new by cutting it.

​ The Mishna Brurah mentions this chiddush of the A”R but does not mention the A”R’s name! See the attached PDF.

We mentioned that an Israeli Yemenite Rov, a  true talmid chochom, Reb Pinchos Zevichi,  writes that due to the change in the method of producing paper nowadays (it is a composite of many materials)   A”R would agree that even today you would not be allowed to tear a paper on Shabbos.

It is in his book  עטרת פז. ח”א.

http://www.bsd-paz.org/Texts/AteretPaz_v1_Orech_Haim/html/E7ECF75FE05FEBF8EA5FE05FE0E5F8E75FE7E9E9ED5FF1E9EEEF5FE9E15FE0E5FA5FE62DE7.htm

Others who mention it:

http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pagefeed/hebrewbooks_org_51762_62.pdf

http://atranet.co.il/aviadstollman/responsan_new.asp?m=6

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2- We spoke about ‘tevilas nida’ in a ‘Mayon’ – meaning a well or spring and NOT a conventional Mikvah.  Machlokes.

Interesting that in Likutei Torah  the A”R says that one needs Mayim Chaim!

http://beta.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=16093&st=&pgnum=222

Rebbe’s note on this:

http://beta.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=16093&st=&pgnum=670

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3- Discussed the common universal practice of warming a Mikva- something we  (correctly) take for granted that it is OK!

See here that the Shulchan Oruch/Mechaber has a big problem with it.

http://beta.hebrewbooks.org/tursa.aspx?a=yd_x5583
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4- Issue with pouring water into an ocean or river and the water not mixing.

Chasam Sofer ​ notes that this Gemore is beyond him.  See here​.

http://beta.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1839&st=&pgnum=176

We will continue this topic IY”H next week.

 

MIshna Berurah, referring to the שיטה  of the AR

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